Myth: Turn Off the Red Light are Trying to Save Children

(Since writing this page I have discovered a near identical situation exists in Manilla ignored by the world. Fortunately, thus far they only exterminate adult sex workers in Iraq so that’s all right, isn’t it?)

Mark Williams-Thomas:

“Your thinking is distorted, you are saying being sexually abused is better than being dead”

I need to say something just to stop my stomach churning. I am hoping, if you read this, you will post it in response to every abolitionist org that tries to use the street children of Rio to support their agenda during the World Cup.

@turnoffRL and @ruhamaagency have begun to put up tweets and one letter to the papers, using the sale of underage sex around the World Cup in Rio as yet another topic to exploit to further their agenda.

Notice I deliberately avoid using the term “child abuse” in connection with the sale of sex in Rio? That is because, compared to the rest of the abusive, absolutely hopeless reality those children live 24/7, selling sex does not even register, and probably adds up to “one of the better, safer days”.

The lives they live, and the speed at which they had to grow up just to make it to next week earns them every right and respect we would usually extend to an adult. God knows, most of them will be dead long before I am, and they know it, and I am a Grandmother already. So many of then will never get to be old enough to have children, let alone Grandchildren.

They only have a little time to fit a whole life into and that changes *all* the rules.

There is nothing in the world I will ever be able to do to help them, but I never forget them, not for a single day…

…and I would never, EVER, for one minute, presume my idea of the best way for them to live another day would do anything but endanger them.

They know what they need to do to survive 10 times better than I do, that is why they are still alive.

NEWSWEEK 9 August 1993 RIO’S DEAD END KIDS

The Murder of Rio’s Street Kids By Stephen Brookes In Rio de Janeiro for Insight Magazine 5 August 1991

Amnesty demands crackdown on police death squads in Brazil By Karin Goodwin in Sao Paulo Saturday 03 December 2005

Death Squads Terrorize Rio De Janeiro as Brazil Readies for World Cup Added by John Poltonowicz on March 15, 2014

Brazil to order army into Rio slums as violence escalates before World Cup Jonathan Watts in Penha, Rio de Janeiro 24 March 2014

Rio de Janeiro police killed 1,500 in five years, says Amnesty International 3 August 2015 

An adult Brazilian sex worker in Europe sending money home, is sometimes the only thing that stand between other children and those dead end streets.

Are you quite sure you want to “end the demand”?

Could you look into the thousand year old eyes of a Rio street child and explain why they must die so you can live in your idea of a “gender neutral” society?

“Turn Off the Red Light”  and Ruhama neither knew, nor cared that those utterly doomed children existed until they could use them as an excuse to demand legislation that will only create utter desperation for other families for them to exploit for big salaries, lavish junkets, and obscene expense accounts.

Children being executed so an ex cop can make $50 is just FINE AND DANDY as long as the child is not being subjected to sex.

In real, heart wrenching terms, selling sex at the world cup for a pittance will probably be the best summer those tragic children will ever know in their lives…because sometimes life really is shit…and you do what you have to do…

…and spoiled Blackrock brats on a power trip haven’t got a clue how that feels.

Neither have I, because I was only a street child in a privileged country, where they aren’t allowed to shoot you.

Chis Rogers at the BBC finds me “disgusting” for stating the above truth…but, I notice, he couldn’t care less about the children existing, and dying on those terms except to sensationalise them for the wealthy abolitionist lobby, while completely ignoring the far deeper and more dangerous horror of their real plight. However, if he could find a few celebrities and/or royals to participate in a documentary, that reality could turn on a sixpence.

Mark Williams Thomas is now chiming in and calling me a “disgrace” which is pretty flattering compared to what I have thought of him since he came hustling me not once but “twice” looking for celebrity dirt from Duncroft. I was more innocent then, I thought he might genuinely care about kids and asked him if there was anything he could do about double convicted pedophile Anthony Luckwill trawling around. Because there were no headlines in that for him he did no even bother to reply enough to suggest I go to the Gardaí, meanwhile three more boys were seriously assaulted and damaged for life before Luckwill was apprehended.

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Note well that neither of these paragons of the 5th estate has expressed the slightest dismay at street children in Rio being exterminated like vermin over the past 20 years or so. Apparently that is totally cool with Chis Rogers and Mark Williams Thomas, despite he fact that they have only recently stood face to face with some of those doomed kids (I feel certain Dr Robert Hare could shed light on how they can be that cold blooded.) 

It would now seem Chris Rogers is reporting me to he Police for endorsing the exploitation of children on the strength of this article alone…and yet, he and Mark Williams Thomas are the ones who took lavishly funded trips to Rio to exploit the street children in the context of selling sex without even noticing, much less mentioning or caring  that many, if not most of those children have no way, AT ALL, with or without selling sex, to survive the next 5 years. Some will have no way to survive to Christmas…and these are real kids I am talking about…not cardboard cut outs.

Whether they sell sex for enough to eat, to something to kill the pain and fear is a great big NOTHING compared to the fact that they have no way to stay alive, and no hope at all. All the great white pseudo-crusaders for children care about are the tabloid headlines that make fame and fortune for themselves…and that, assholes, is DEFINATELY the ruthless exploitation of children.

They even had the chance once I raised the wider and more devastating  issues affecting Rio’s street children to seize the moment and the opportunity to use the positions they have wheedled and clawed their way into to highlight those issues for the sake of the kids they both just made a shitload of money out of, and couldn’t care less about, but, instead they attack, threaten and bully me for catching them out and showing them up. 

Good luck with that. 

Then the next day (12 June 14) it got even more chilling with this tweet from Mark Williams Thomas (presumably, by then, he had actually read this article rather than blindly attacking anyone who dares to suggest he is not a minor God):

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I am sure Himmler was convinced that it was “distorted thinking” to suggest that being Jewish was better than being killed too.

Is Mark Williams Thomas really suggesting that wherever we have no better alternative to offer to selling sex to survive we should exterminate the victims for their own good?

Strangely that has often struck me as being at the heart of abolitionist thinking and something that might start creeping out into the open on the fringes as time goes on.

Does Mark Williams Thomas intend to go on making a name and a fortune for himself by becoming the vanguard?

Rolling out documentary after documentary “proving” that anyone forced to sell sex  (which would be everyone according to the abolitionists) is better off dead, children first, without once attempting to check whether they agree with that.   

If John Pilger was really as sick, twisted, phoney, and self serving as this new generation of journalists – don’t tell me, I need to go on half believing in SOMETHING.

Would I rather sell sex and get a REALLY good meal, or huddle in the shadows, trying to ignore the hunger inside while I wonder if the death squads will get me tonight?

Decisions, decisions…

The real scandal here is that we *do* live in a world where life is still allowed to be so cruel and unfair that real, innocent children are trapped in situations where selling sex is their best and only option. That is not because selling sex is in any way acceptable, but because the options those children wake up to every single day of their lives are so drastically and hopelessly worse.

To add insult to injury, instead of even trying to find a way to change that and help them, all anyone is willing to do is make a name and a fortune for themselves out of making those impossible, unbearable, lives even harder. To me that beggars description…

WHO CARES if they are selling sex until they get the same right to survive at all, let alone eat as any other child.

You can exterminate the problems it hurts too much to look at any time you want, because you have the power and the victims do not, but you cannot make that fair, right or even forgivable.

I do not want an apology from Chris Rogers or Mark Williams Thomas they would not mean it, and I would not believe it. I want them to GO BACK at their own expense, apologise to those children in person for exploiting and mocking them and then tell their true story…

…with all proceeds to go straight back to the street children of Rio…without stopping to be tithed by any form of “admin”.

If you are in Rio, and a child tries to sell you sex ask them their price, hand them at least double, apologise for the terrible life you have abandoned them to, then walk away.

I endorse that.

Codicil: “Turn Off the Red Light” have been hosting serious incitement to hatred against me on their facebook page since shortly after it was written:

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…even though they are fully aware that my location has been exposed and they may be placing me in significant danger. In the event of serious harm coming to me, please ensure this information reaches the proper authorities. I cannot stop them doing me serious harm, but PLEASE make sure they pay for it by been shown up as the ruthless, criminal, hypocrites they are.

More hate speech encouraged and hosted by “Turn Off the Red Light”:

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It is increasingly obvious that this creature has never even read the article, much less tried to contact me or comment directly. Her name seems real, and by all recollection I have never met her in my life. She is just another example of the histrionic nutcases “Turn Off the Red Light” are happy to use as weapons against anyone who challenges them.

If we really care about what is happening to people, first we ask ourselves why this is happening, what their alternatives really are, and what they want and need most from those alternatives. Never asking themselves (let alone those directly affected) those questions serves as defining proof that abolitionists in general have no sincere concern whatsoever for anything except themselves and whatever they get out of the licence to impose abusive control abolitionism confers upon them.

Not asking yourself those questions about damaged and doomed children makes you something far worse again. 

There are worse things than selling sex in utter desperation and Rio’s street children could teach master classes in most of them, if abolitionists were not too wrapped up in themselves to learn.

Just to show you how deliberate and dirty “Turn Off the Red Light” really is this post appeared on twitter from an obscure Canadian Lobbying Account at 15:57 17 September 2014:

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Between  16:15 and 16:17  17 September 2014 “Turn Off the Red Light” retweeted the same obscure Canadian lobbying account:

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Barring quite extraordinary coincidence, well, what do *you* think “Turn Off the Red Light” are trying to achieve?

I suspect this is relevant.

I have never had any illusions about “Turn Off the Red Light”. I have always known that they were acting entirely out of self interest and without conscience. There has never been a single moment of asking myself if there might be a better nature to appeal to somewhere, nor have I ever seen myself sitting down with them in a state of resolved differences.

Even before I got involved in this I knew that, if I stood up to “Turn Off the Red Light” and friends they would do everything in their power to do me serious harm, and the only limit on that would be when and what they could find a way to get away with.

I accepted that when I took this on.

3 thoughts on “Myth: Turn Off the Red Light are Trying to Save Children

  1. I get what you’re saying. It’s not a matter of selling sex as a child being okay or approving, but when the options are so limited to any kind of stability or survival, then it at least offers them some respite, in the form of food.

    There is no comfort to be had in termination, we instinctively are born to try and survive and when life is fraught with so much danger, I suspect they value theirs far more than some fat guy in a suit. No child should be in a position where selling sex is the best option for them, but if you’re not able to change their options for the better, then what exactly are you doing? Taking away their hope for the next meal? Or assuming that their life is not worth living? I’m sure they would disagree with the gunman if given a chance. Live or die?

    Perhaps the funding for Ruhama would be much better spent giving these children some shelter, food and hope? I personally would champion that and maybe even gain some respect for them, if they were to look beyond their own needs and feed the needs of others. As in those that really need help, because the money is being wasted at the moment and lining the pockets of those that help no one but themselves.

  2. Thanks Kate, this piece is a departure from my usual agenda, in a way, because it is more of a partial coincidence, with a lot of bad things very personal to me in the same place, at the same time, with the same roaring hypocrisy. Except this is not the polite hypocrisy of college debate, this is the kind of hypocrisy that kills people while the perps walk away with clean hands.

    It is not good or acceptable that these kids are having to sell sex, but compared to the rest of their lives making a big deal out of that for personal gain is like making a big deal out of the fact that do not have clean hankies…

    …making a big deal out of these kids selling sex for the sole purpose of making it impossible for their Mum, Auntie, big sister, brother or Uncle to make enough money in Europe to send home to keep other kids off those streets is the kind of disgusting, despicable act I cannot even wrap my head around.

    The fact that people can lie their way out of the consequences of their actions, even to themselves, does *NOT* stop those consequences from happening.

    People say “the answer is to fix the world”. I agree, but fixing the world takes time those kids just do not have…what are we saying here?

    “So sorry you can’t hang around without food until we have fixed the world enough to offer you a real life. BYE!”

    It has nothing to do with the criminalisation of the sex industry, but everything to do with the sick, twisted mentality of those who make a career out of demanding it.

  3. Well… they like to latch on to the thought of children being prostituted and since there is no proof of children under the age of 17 in this position in Ireland (despite them saying the average age is 13), they have had to look further a field to get to the heart strings of the maternal and protective.
    When they are having to stoop so low and look so far to make their point, it really is time they gave up and admitted defeat. Time to stop making up stories and deal with the reality, which is that most Sex Workers work of their own free will, even if that is with the help of someone else. They want the job and they want the money, for whatever reason that may be. Better to work with them than against them, if help is really what they are offering, otherwise it just looks like another body of people looking to exploit a minority group, that already live with stigma and little protection.

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